25 August 2006

MEGAUpdate - Transformers, and the Winners Are (Now with Megatron):

UPDATE BUZZ: Here is the first look at an honest to goodness actual Transformer face, and its Bumblebee.




MEGAUPDATE: I have Megatron. I guess he is not a tank, or a gun, but ... an "Alien Jet." I have full frontal and head shots, enjoy.






UPDATE: I've got a model shot of Starscream!



The names of the Autobots and Decepticons appearing in next summer's Transformers movie were released along with a bit of commentary. I thought that would throw in a few pictures of the robots as an added bonus. Click for bigger version. Sadly there is no ghetto-blaster (or iPod) Soundwave, but I admit the "flame" look on Prime looks A-Ok. Enjoy.

Autobots

Optimus Prime - "The king!"


Bumblebee - "He's the same underdog character we always knew and loved." [Note: Except he's a Camaro in the new movie.]

Jazz - "He's eager to take on the Decepticons."

Ratchet - "Ratchet, who was an ambulance in the cartoon, will appear in a new form."

Ironhide - "The muscle. A tough soldier who can make any Transformer bust an o-ring just with his stare!"


Decepticons

Megatron - "He's been portrayed as pure evil but we're trying to get a little bit behind the evil in this movie. ... He has a slightly less idealistic version of what he thinks humanity is worth."

Starscream - "Always secretly plotting to dethrone Megatron..."

Brawl - "An extremely pissed off Decepticon."

Bonecrusher - "The closest thing to a Constructicon in the film."

Barricade - "The hunter of the group -- a cop car."

Scorpinok - "Closest thing to Beast Wars or Dinobot in the film."



Frenzy - "A smaller form able to infiltrate spaces -- a stealth spy."

Blackout - "The guy who takes out our ability to fight back."



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74 comments:

Anonymous said...

This movie is gonna suck! I was so stoked to hear that they were finally making a live-action TF flick, and have been counting down since the announcement. But now, after seeing these AWFUL looking robotic versions, I'm so disappointed that it's hard to put it into words. Well, at least we still have the original fantastic cartoons to watch over and over. . . . .

cymer said...

Bumblebee is not a Beetle? Hmmmn...

Anonymous said...

Bumblebee hasn't been a VW Beetle since 2002-2003 when VW refused to license the character fo re-release ...because the toys are associated with violence. Try to find out the last time Jazz was actually a Porsche ...

(VW and Porsche are the same parent company.)

Anonymous said...

I agree with the first comment...
Starscream looks nothing like the whiny scientist we know, Megatron is no longer the man with the huge gun and nearly every autobot now looks like they have been designed by tossing some 3d tribal markings together and tagging the old names on.. It seems all the transformers lost the characteristics that complemented their personality so nicely..It is evident the makers of the wanted to add their own spin to the transformers, but if it's gonna be like this, just forget it!

Anonymous said...

hmm..I think the designs will just get lost anyway in the movie. While competing with dialog and action...or just a major distraction.

Well...atleast Soundwave isn't an ipod.

Anonymous said...

im more worried about micheal bay directing i hope there isnt going to be a love story in the middle of what could be a kick ass war event. ie pearl harbour fingers crossed no ben afleck (tosser)..

Anonymous said...

I am really dissapointed ...

WHat happend to magatron !!

Hed oesn'even look like the real deal. Me and a HUGE GROUP of transformer fans.. ARe just sooo dissapointed,.. after seeing magatron( helooks like a tree!)

Holland (amsterdam)

Anonymous said...

I agree! the transformers movie pics are a disgrace to the original G1 fans.

I understand why Megatron can't be a gun, but if this is what they are going to offer, then I'd rather settle for the Transformers:Cybertron version (Car and plane) or Transformers: Energon, the G1 tank or even Leonard Nimoy's Galvatron for crying out loud!!!
And What's up with Optimus Prime!?!? He looks like an alien swimsuit model!! Does the rest of his truck parts disappear like his trailer did in G1.

Anonymous said...

i very upset i love th oringinal, but they have discraced the roborts designs, they look (fuckin) awful. they takin out the best charaters from the oringinal film and shoved the less intrestin charaters, i want soundwave, and weres hot rod, he ruled. i agree magatron he looks like a tree

Anonymous said...

I think that the new designs are pretty cool. Imagine if they had the exact same designs as the origional toys. They would all be short, blocky, and generally imobile-looking.
I think for the studio to apeal to new fans, they had to go with new designs, new characters, and a new story. I for one am pretty excited to see the film. Weather it is like G1 or no, I just hope it's a good flik!

Anonymous said...

I think that the new designs are pretty cool. Imagine if they had the exact same designs as the origional toys. They would all be short, blocky, and generally imobile-looking.
I think for the studio to apeal to new fans, they had to go with new designs, new characters, and a new story. I for one am pretty excited to see the film. Weather it is like G1 or no, I just hope it's a good flik!

Anonymous said...

I think that the new designs are pretty cool. Imagine if they had the exact same designs as the origional toys. They would all be short, blocky, and generally imobile-looking.
I think for the studio to apeal to new fans, they had to go with new designs, new characters, and a new story. I for one am pretty excited to see the film. Weather it is like G1 or no, I just hope it's a good flik!

WGDesigner said...

Anyone who thinks this is movie is gonna suck. Your dumb. Movies change with the times...thats the way it works. If the film makers put a blocky dumb looking 80's robot on screen everyone would hate them. The designs were simpler back in the 80's because they couldn't do complex designs with with 2D animation. I am a game design major and i know for a fact that 3d offers a way of doing way more complex things easier than 2d animation does. And you only have to do it once. With 3D they will be able to concentrate on the movement and character alot more than they could have with 2D. And if you really hate the designs your obviously thick headed and unwilling to change. So good luck with living in the past and being unsuccessful at life. I'm gonna move forward and go enjoy the transformers movie.

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Anonymous said...

Hmmm, being a little skeptical in SOME of the designs for the upcoming, i was a little dissapointed. Did they really have to change it up that much? is it that they are trying to appeal to more fans or what. I can get past that but i hope the flick is more then meets the eye. With a hell of alot of fighting.

Anonymous said...

Well to the guy who said he was a "Game designer". Ok your not a director, your a game designer, you don't filmed things you make games. See the difference? I would say this in a nicer way but you didn't show any respect to the ones who feel dissapointed about the movie, you just came in and said "well you all are thick-headed and stupid you suck I move forward in life, while you soak in the past." Sorry if thats not what you entirely said but yeah that was pretty wrong. Dude it's a gem cartoon, and gem as in classical precious,precious cartoon/movie/anime. Everyone has a right to say it suck, cause it does. Look at megatron? Obviously he does not look like megatron now does it? you said things change as we move forward, so I guess If TF:C,E are the only things we can look into as a real transformer series, we can leave this abomination you proudly called "The Transformers : Micheal bay film" to you and your designing friends. Cause I know...I will be watching just for kicks, ILM and dreamworks better change this up or they will be hated very quickly in the near future, 3d realism once again shown that deisngers who remake stuff remakes it badly. Thats all I have tgo say I'm sure you would understand what I mean instead of snapping back.

Anonymous said...

The Transformers look as they do in this version because they're trying to appeal to a wider audience, that is, adults who might have looked under the hood of a car at one time or another.

I mean, only the rabid geekhood can turn a blind eye (due to early indoctrination) to the fact that the original Transformers designs never worked as articulate/agile robots (which was hidden in animation through polygonal forms that had to "flex" to accommodate movement), and also that the solid polygons would never fit into a vehicle and still accommodate the various drivetrains, much less leave room for occupants and still pass as a regular car.

Not that any complicated transforming robot makes any sense anyways (consider that any complication adds weight and reduces structural integrity), but at least these lanky, mechanical ones strains the imagination just a *bit* less.

Anonymous said...

Regardless of wheter the producers of the movie and Michael Bay are trying to attract newbies to the series or just trying for a "cooler" look, the bottom line comes to this: The characters are unrecognizable in there robot mode. Sure Optimus is still a late '70s Peterbuilt, but Bumblebee as a Camaro? Bumblebee was our lovable underdog because he 'was' a Bettle, NOT a Concept Camaro.

The other guy who said that those polygon shapes had to bend in order to make the characters look mobile is right, but that can be worked around with the 3D version. Not to the degree of these photos where there is no semblance of what the robot might have been in their 'auto mode'.

I guess what I'm saying is that I'm excited that there is a live action movie, but they could have held some of the G1 look. Lets face it, most of the people generating the buzz on this film are the G1 fans. Let's not disappoint them.

Oh, Megatron looks like a Sharkticon.

Anonymous said...

I really don't like the designs of the movie and I hope that the studio and the director are aware of these facts that I share along with others.

That being said they didn't have to make the transformers in the G1 design. They could have worked off more recent designs like Transformers: Cybertron or Armada and put their own spin on the characters from there. Those robots designs aren't blocky.

This movie is sad. Starscream is my favorite Transformer and from the desing I'm not even sure if he is still a jet.

They're messing with my childhood here!!!

Anonymous said...

I think the designs for some of the transformers do leave something to be desired. However I think this movie is gonna rock!!!! While Megatron does look like a tree, I read an article somewhere saying that he will adopt a more Earthly mode in the movie. I guess we'll all have to wait and see what Micheal Bay has in store for us on 7.4.7. Decepticons Forever!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Yeah, Megatron will eventually convert from an unrealistic looking Cybertron tree into a very realistic looking earthborn Redwood. Bad news is, in robot mode he still looks a little weak.

ebonicsleazy said...

Does everyone really expect for a movie to come out with all the Transformers being cars that are 20+ years old? I like the idea of a more modern version, though I do not think I'm going to like the way Meagatron is going to turn out. But hopefully they do something with it. I am willing to bet that even though most of you are posting nothing but complaints, you will all go buy a ticket to see the movie next year, with the exception of the losers who work at the movie theatres and live with their mothers (those of you who are still in school are exempt from that statement). I just pray that Micheal Bay does not do to the Transformers what he did to Pearl Harbor.

Anonymous said...

NOOOO! Starscream, what did they do to you?! Your beautiful, beautiful, image! They made him look like an APE! A FREAKIN' APE! I wanted to see the movie when I saw the trailer, but after seeing a picture of Starscream, I'm not so sure. They shouldn't tamper with the images that everyone knows and loves, they could call this movie by a different name and I wouldn't recognize it. I'm gonna go scream in a toilet now.

Anonymous said...

Take a moment to see what Mike Bay is doing. He's attracting more fans to the series with sleeker cars and alternate modes. These young fans didn't know what the old Transformers were like back in the day. They grew up around the Beast Wars and Armada and so on, these series lacked the blocky bots for sleeker ones, so fans will reconize the transformers. BUT AT LEAST HE KEPT THE NAMES!!!! Bay keeps these new transformers true to there roots, by not giving them new names. I loved the G1 bots just as much as you do but let's face it heroes have changed with time. THe G1 bots are gone, things have moved on, so stop living in the past like those who think Disco will come back

Anonymous said...

How hard is it to fit the vehicle modes to the year the movie takes place?, another thing to look at is that we still have vehicles around that are 20 years old

Anonymous said...

You people who think the movie is gonna suck quit whining to everybody about it

Optimal Optimus said...

Like all of u im a major transformers fan i have no problems with the whole story and everything. Now the only problem i have is some of the body designs of the decepticons. Like when i saw the design for some of the decepticons like megatron and starscream i was thinking WHAT THE HELL DID THEY DO TO U. Yes i noe we have to move on but at least wen u design megatron or any of the other transformers at least keep the faces original. Like come on its not so hard to change the faces. like Bay did a good job keeping Optimus Primes face original and shit so do the same with the rest. Like am i right or wat. Also i hope they change megatrons body cause hell it looks like a bunch of wires twisted together. And come on wats with the addition of the battle face like that is so extra, i hope MICHAEL BAY u read this comment cause damn ur gonna lose alot of the original fans of transformers if u dont change some of the transformers. Heres a list of the highly recommended ppl who need to be changed

-megatron(make face look the same as in G1 and change the body)
-starscream(Change the face to make it look like G1)
-scorponok-(make his body have like a metal skin over his body cause damn wen i first saw him he didnt even look like a scorpion)
-Make everyones face except optimus prime [since his face still looks the same]look like that of G1)

i hope to u original G1 fans that i have stated the real problems that needed to be changed.
And for those of u who say wer whining thats because the franchise that we have been rooting and supporting is being wrecked by those who cant keep some originality.
like i said before at least keep the faces original and give megatron some kind of earthly vehicle.

Anonymous said...

As much as the TF purists complain about the designs, you all are going to see it. I know I am. Don't pretend you're not. The new designs kind of look more like Gundam or Robotech than Transformers, but Scorpicon looks badass in the trailer.

Anonymous said...

your right about megatrons face and body he looks dull and messed up they should stick to the things that are original

Anonymous said...

Shit megatron looks like he got hit by a bus and dipped his head in glass!!
And whats up with the feet on all the robots. They look like crows feet man! I am a big fan and I can accept change, but micheal you pushed the limite man!! I hope you learn from your mastake and hopefuly the next transformer atemp will be by someone who understands and has the pasion for the Transformers!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I meant to say megatrom looks like he got hit by a bus and dip in broken glass. I think Peter Jackson would have done this really good. look at lord of the rings, they luck out.
All I'm trying to say is I was looking to see for somthing that would look way better than the origanal, and I think I speak for every body else!!!!
PS. X-men's outfits suck assssss!!

Anonymous said...

What the FUCK is everybodys problem

Anonymous said...

You all have an enormous amount of time. Yeah go ahead and watch those G1 cartoons over and over.It simply means you wont be in the theatre talking through the entire film and annoying the hell out of those of us who are excited to see the movie.
P.S. get a date

Anonymous said...

You people and your originality Its just a fucking movie deal with it you cant change the way it will be

Anonymous said...

I'm a girl only 18 but me and my brother have grown up watching transformers aka beast wars and many others
so we hope that this movie will be good. Some of the new looks i will half to get use to though, Megatron for example looks a lot more alien kinda weird but also kinda cool, Optimus looks cool too.

Anonymous said...

Michael Bay...you're seriously killing me man! Are you kidding me!? I don't even know have the names of the transformers on the character list, and the ones I do know are disappointingly unrecognizable. All I know is that there better be more transformers in the actual movie than the ones listed. No hot rod, kup, ultra-magnus, dinobots, astrotrain, blurr, devastator…I could go on forever. However, because I am such a fan I’m going to see it. Everyone on this post is going to see it even if they claim they aren’t, but damn…

Anonymous said...

I have been a fan of Transformers for many years now and I am actually looking forward to the live action movie.
Sure they may not look like their animated counter-parts but it would be impossible to do so.
I'm going to give the movie a chance for now, I'll give my view of it after I actually see the movie!
TF Fan 4 Life!

Anonymous said...

I got no complaints. My only fear is that Michael Bay is gonna jack this movie up with some "L-word" intertwined to the plot. Damn there better be a crap load of FIGHTING!

Anonymous said...

I got no complaints. My only fear is that Michael Bay is gonna jack this movie up with some "L-word" intertwined to the plot. Damn there better be a crap load of FIGHTING!

Anonymous said...

just wanted to say yall fuck up the hole transformer theme. i've been a fan for along time and i'm just glad that i got to enjoy the old school movie and i don't think i will enjoy this new one now.
ARMIC

Anonymous said...

Normally I avoid seeing movie trailers before I see the actually movie. I like being surprised by what I see when I enter a theater. I had stayed away from the Transformers trailers like usual, but then I started hearing about all the visual changes. So I decided to watch the trailers and look for pictures of the movie ‘bots to get my mind used to the changes.

I think by time the movie comes out I will be fine with the differences. Hay, they have Peter Cullen doing the voice for Prime. To me that is a *BIG* thing. I can tolerate a lot of visual changes to him if when he speaks Prime’s voice comes out.

I am happy that Megatron is a jet not a gun. The mass displacement just wouldn’t work in a movie. It would be just silly.

If you guys are disappointed with the direction the movie is going, checkout the Simon Furman comics at www.idwpublishing.com. They are dead on with the G1 look for ‘bots. Megatron even does mass displacement. Get your G1 fill with the comics then go enjoy the movie for what it is.

Anonymous said...

They shoulda kept true to form. It coulda been done and done well, as it was done on this clip.
This version looks much better to me than Bay's. Mostly because Optimus Prime had a flat front and fast foward to the year 2007 ... they still make em that way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngLOIOSqRvg

And for the loss of mass concept on Megatron. You are right it would be hard to believe that a 25 foot tall robot could shrink into a gun.... but with a well thought out idea that he could vastly increase density. I could buy that he could become the size of a gun, a very very very heavy gun.

I'll see the movie, prolly really dig the animation. It just prolly won't be transformers to me. It's like calling for Lassie and having a Great Dane come up to you. I want Lassie to be a collie darn it.

Anonymous said...

Ok, I am going to set things straight here. They really should have kept the Generation One features. I keep hearing all this crap that G1 transformers were blocky. I am pretty sure they could make them more modern day looking and still keep the basic same features like the face. I do like the fact that bumblebee is a camaro. Lets face it, that is way cooler than a dumb ass volkswagon. They should have kept optimus primes original look, maybe modernize it a bit, but all these flames make him look like a flaming fagget. Megatron is AWFUL. WHAT THE FUCK. The G1 megatron was awesome. Don't give me that crap they can't make him a gun. Starscream is a disgrace. The G1 starscream was just great to look at. Why fuck with a great formula. Look at spiderman. That franchise has made multi-millions if not billions. They stuck to the basics. Spiderman looks like the character we grew up with. Same with superman. Small changes are fine. Like they did with Batman. Batman has a darker look than the 60's tv show. But they totally changed Megatron and Starscream. What about soundwave and jetfire and shockwave. Those guys ruled. How come they are not in the film. They had the chance to make a movie for the ages and they already started off on the wrong foot. I have a feeling the movie will be entertaining, but it could have been everything people wanted it to be. People will be left with an empty feeling because in the back of their minds they will always think, I wish they had used the original transformers. There is a reason transformers are still around and the GO-BOTS are not. Why mess with a perfect formula. I for one am excited to see this movie. But I am and will always be left with an empty feeling because its not the REAL TRANSFORMERS that I know and love.

Anonymous said...

File sharing, people. Make your opinions heard. Download a cam when the movie comes out, screen it. If you like it, buy a ticket. If you don't, fuck 'em. Don't give these guys millions of your hard earned dollars to screw up the franchise you love if you don't have to.

Anonymous said...

I guess I can throw in my 2 cents...while yes, I agree with the many fans that are disappointed at what's become of the memorable transformers we know and love, and on the other hand also agree to those who think that a new era brings new changes, why couldn't the directors use both? In past episodes, the transformers arrived on earth damaged from the crash, and when repaired, they were given new forms to accomadate their arrival to an "alien" world, to blend in. (Robots in Disguise, DUH!) Now unless they plan on some of the movie taking place on Cybertron, which I think would be a feat in itself, then I can see some of the newer models they plan on using, but for only those scenes. But c'mon, how the hell are you supposed to "disguise" an alien ship (Megatron) flying around in the sky?? Megatron was all about power, hence the reason they made him a gun, or a cannon, or a tank. And Bumblebee as a camaro? (thought Hot Rod might've pulled it off a lot better) If they're not going to do anything to tie this movie to the historic Transformers, then why even call it that? I'd like to see "some" originality don't get me wrong, but I'd also like to see what ties this movie to the Transformers we know.

Anonymous said...

whoever said that these 3d renderings are better and 'on' with the times is dead wrong, it is flawed design and a bad adaptation of what the original G1 Transformers were. Despite the blockiness of the 80's, it was still a well designed for us to understand the innerworkings of the robots while concentrating on character development which G1 did successfully... japanese anime wasa step above in terms of biomechanic design but that is Japan, not USA. Anime has its own world of standards to live up too, American animation standards and its adaptations cannot be compared to japanese anime, which is what Michael Bay is trying to shoot for, shame shame shame.....

Carlos f. said...

ive seen most of the designs for the robots. and yes things change with time. and yes there was limitations in the robots designed in the 80s tv show. but u cant invent a totally new concept and ignore the reason what every hardcore tf fan is expecting.

they should have retained some of the same designs but amping it up with some new design.

optimus looks fine, but megatron wow. they so didnt look at his original concept, starscream needed to more simple.

i do hope the plot/story retains its value and michael bay doesnt screw the whole thing up

Anonymous said...

i think everyone needs to calm down. dont forget u all were probably 3-10 years old when u watched the old tv show. who cares if they have different forms? u really expect them to use a 1980's vw beetle??? all that matters is that the personalities are the same. as long as bumblebee is the "little guy", starscream is the backstabber, and jazz is smartmouthed and cocky. just enjoy the film and shut up. dont jump on every internet chat room u can find right after u get home from the movie and bash it. if ur fans support the franchise. bunch of whiny babies.

ice9 said...

I watched transformers all the time when I was a kid. I had alot of the toys too.I even had transformers sheets. After seeing the designs for Megatron, I couldn't help but be disappointed. Why coulnd't they make him look cool at least? This Megatron sucks. Why couldn't he transform into some cool big gun still, that would be better then an alien jet. As far as the other transformers I've seen, they really don't look that bad. Optimus Prime looks fairly close to the g1 version and Bumble Bee even though he isn't a bug still looks pretty close. Anyways I'm not stuck in the past I just think they really screwed the pooch when the designed Megatron. My only other complaint is that they threw all these new transformers in when they had probably 1,000's of models to work with. What where they thinking? Old fans and young ones both want to see their favorite toys realized and kicking ass on the big screen. They could even throw in a few new super cool transformers that would be great. However this approach of well we don't want to piss anyone off so we'll just make new stuff is retarted. Im sure kids will love this movie. I think they may have left alot of the old school fans behind though

allprime said...

For the most part I believe all transfans will see this movie.I will.I just may be The Transformers number one fan and I feel the anticipation to this movie as I did to series when I was five back in '84. Yes, at least two of the new designs look strange and unapproachable, but lets remember that there are possibilities of sequels that can change these forms and bring out old characters that fans of the classics remember and love.What is better to have a live action movie with the visceral looking Megatron or to not have a movie at all?I was Optimus's ultimate fan and I think he looks cooler than ever.Hopefully the powers that brought us this movie will make adjustments to Megatron and Starscream in future movies , but for now I get excited when I see tractor trailers on the highway and am eagerly awaiting 7/04/07.

Crovirus said...

I can't believe how stupid and primitive some people can be!!! Arguing around some movie is something we had to leave in the 20th century!!!
My opinion-it doesn't matter how new Transformers look like (OK, Megatron and Starscream look a little bit stupid, but that's not important), we should hope this movie will turn out great!!!!

Anonymous said...

This movie will be a 4th of July hit and everyone knows it! You all know that growing up you wished that the TF brand would come to the big screen. Yes it has flaws but so did the Spider-Man movies with Spidey shooting webs out of his wrist instead of a cartidge! Everyone wants to go back to the G1 TF but even as a little kid I knew that a big robot such as Megatron could have not transform and shrink into a little handgun that Starscream could carry! And where did Optimus Prime's trailer go when he'd transform? So either go see it or don't. Just stop whining!

M.King

Anonymous said...

I just saw the new trailer with Shrek 3 and all I can say is Holy Crap! It looks awesome! The special effects look perfect. I have very high expectations for this movie.

BTW I also read the prequel novel, Megatron does not get a chance to pick a Earth mode, so no disguise.

Bumblebee is also MUCH cooler as a Camaro, I think his VS Beetle mode sucks now.

Anonymous said...

Give the film a chance its got a good director and superb producer, I think they are trying to make it more believable. I'm a huge fan of the animated series and owned loads of the toys, as long as they don't kiddify the movie it should be OK. ( Please dont let it be like Thunderbirds!! )

Zaxxon

Anonymous said...

Manifest Destiny dictates a white-man's prophecy - White-man's world, white-man's Apocolypse:::
History says society evolved into where it is today. Others may look at it differently::::Because of the white man's favor the gods bestowed great wealth upon them:::::It is quite obviously a white man's god.
The reality is that the gods SCRIPTED Earth's history and utilize reverse positioning::Money is a corruptor and is hurting you badly.

The god's positioning is SUCK that their positioned Anti-Christ is the architect of the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake. Because of this event they went on to control business on the west coast and elsewhere as the United States emerged as a superpower, capitalism as the dominant economic system.

Romans were terrorists, hedonists and hypersexual deviates. Misled by positioning, many disfavored believe the Romans were favored::::Similar behavior that ocurrs in and by the United States are also signs of disfavor.
Etruscan women were masculinized long before the "Catholic" masculinizing effect, long before the Roman hedonism. Expect the masculinization of Etruscan women to be a primary reason the gods inflicted the Roman Empire upon these people::::The gods HATE the Eutruscans/Romans/Italians.
One can say the Italians took mankind to the brink of the Apocalypse. And it happened for a reason::::Scapegoatting. The gods don't want ANY of them in The End, and they rally oppostion::::Other groups are repulsed by what is happening to their descendants.
Yes, most of this theater does ocurr telepathically. But I'd like to remind people how active the brain-less clones were in the 20th century:::::Brain-less clones are used to hurt, mislead and corrupt the disfavored. Decent people don't get involved, and any wealthy or powerful people involved are because of their disfavor, for hurting others costs them dearly in the eyes of the gods.

Twenty-somethings are conditioned to respond positively to magic::::::they are the extacy generation.
This is not by accident. Expect they will be an important generation ("in charge", etc) when the battle between the Anti-Christ and Second Coming of Christ ocurrs.
This of course will be a 20-year war-revelry cycle distraction theater, and they want these people consumed by the high level of magic that will ocurr.
This generation is The Damned::::You're all going to die PEAKING like you're on X.
The gods positioned this as if the Italains created Generation X/popularized esctacy. This drug hypersexualized people and resulted in great promiscuity among the users. It is positioned that the Italians used this promiscuous behavior to justify their exclusion from the "Exodus of 2000" after-the-fact.


Austrian Sigmund Freud is known as the father of psychoanalysis, yet people have (mental) health problems because of their disfavor, illustrating the preditory purpose of this discipline, this individual.
These people.
Of course Hitler was Austrian:::An Austrian-born leading a foreign nation. Glock, maker of the semi-automatic gun favored by black street gangs such as the Bloods and the Crips, is Austrian.
RedBull Energy drink, Buwdeiser both Austrian. What role do Austrians play in the cigarette industry??

The Holocaust was foreshadowing, yet another example of the Jews sacrificing to help the disfavored::::
1. 1492 exodus from Spain. Spain became evil - financed Columbus, initiated missionaries, USA (dumping ground of disfavored victimized by god), etc.
2. Spread throughout Europe as clue to Christians worshipping a false god.
3. "Quasi-Holocaust claim" contradicting boss.
4. 5. 6. 7. etc. etc. etc.
The Apocalypse (or an Apocalyptic event) will be initiated by an Austrian. When the national referendum to allow foreign-born individuals to run for president is introduced I recommend you DEFY and vote NO!! In the years prior to this vote the gods will send POWERFUL clues suggesting the IMPORTANCE OF DEFIANCE.

Apex of irony in the Situaiton:::Jew calls in Quasi-Holocaust claim and takes boss, re-igniting the flames of anti-Semitism among blacks & rednecks in the crucial years before the black holocaust:::::::

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Italy's boot is a clue showing the god's intent with the Romans AND their active involvement::::The gods micromanaged the Eutruscans into their role as Romans, just as they micromanaged me with Artificial Intelligence into the role they scripted for this Situation.
Oshkosh is a clue just as Lake Michigan and Green Bay are clues::::Oshkosh is the ejaculate clue:::Life springs forth from this region.
Expect your traditional Second Coming of Christ to come from the region. The gods dirtied me up but the Second Coming will be squeeky clean. Consistant with the possibility of matrilinial lineage it may be the mother's family from the Lake Winnebago area fulfilling some "Manifest Destiny" theater:::Because of the gross disfavor of the people the gods emphisize evil, utilizing "magic", peaked euphoria, as they will during the Second Coming of Christ, and they minimize good, as you see with my efforts, for the people's collective favor has fallen sufficiently to justify this behavior, justified with the masculinization of women, sexual deviacy, etc.
You see Manifest Destiny all around you (corporate)::::Manifest Destiny dictates a white-man's prophecy:::::White-man's world, white-man's Apocolypse. Expect The End to ocurr EXACTLY as it reads in Revelations.
When this happens in 30 years there will be no more black Jesus devotees. Attrition will have eliminated this population. This of course is a good sign for the bottom-of-the-barrel who will be betting on the Second Coming of Christ, but their devotion better be genuine, and it won't be.
Since the gods don't respect Christianity I wouldn’t be surprised if they have the Second Coming lead the people to the center of a star, but this is far less likely with blacks out of the picture.
The REAL battle of good and evil ocurrs within these pages, for noone but me would DARE to fuck the gods as I do:::They manufactured a person who had seething hatred for them, strategically destroying his life SPECIFICALLY for their use preying on the disfavored:::It is yet another example of "back-handed help" the gods offer to the disfavored. It continues telepathically in people's minds, the REAL battleground for people's souls:::It's you vs the gods.

Women are the favored gender:::Those who understand what it means to be a woman are already halfway there.
The purpose of the masculinization of women of the last 40 years was to pave the way (justification) for The End, for it brought mankind's collective favor down.

This isn’t about reals and clones. This is about the brains and the brain-less:::The brain-less are people whose families have been OUT FOR GENERATIONS, families lucky enough to avoid this disturbing age and its accompanying abuses. ALL of them got out back when they were peasants, even the royal families and Pharrohs, and the gods used these tools to create this stratigic history here on Earth:::There is no such thing as Earthly-management. Without Artificial Intelligence acting and speaking through them brain-less clones are inanimate objects. Also the gods replace strategic individuals frequently as a risk/benefit managerial tactic.
This is the key which unlocks the god’s puzzle.
The Italian brain-less clones were used as monsters because of their gross disfavor::They were the first group of people inflicted with Chrisitianity; incurred the scourge of opera, Italy's hip hop; experienced the masculinzation of Eutruscan women, justified with Catholicism (I suspect this is why the gods inflicted them with the scouge of the preditory Roman Empire).
I think the Jewish brain-less clones who were used as monsters were used as such out of convienience::::The Southern man is grossly disfavored, and the gods were able to manipulate their perception of Jews, creating ill-will, stoking anti-Semetic attitudes among the grossly disfavored.
I don't know why Austrian brain-less clones were used as monsters. Maybe for one of those reasons, maybe both, maybe neither.

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The disfavored have the look of evil upon their faces:::The gods have punished their blood line for the evil of their forefathers; their decision to sell out their blood line costed the descendants, and the gods sent this message by altering their appearance.
I realize this topic is a major problem for it confuses many people::::::::
Brain-less clones stay beautiful despite their evil because they are used ACTIVELY as preditor in the role of corruptor (their involvement is the clue). The gods NEED for them to look good or else it will send this clue:::The look of evil upon people's face is a sign to avoid them, for they are grossly disfavored.
They warned people life would become more difficult, and not seeing evil upon wicked brain-less clone's faces is an outstanding example.

People were pushed into having gay experiences because their parents were sell-out whores.
People were pushed into being sell-out whores because their parents sold their blood line down the river in the early 20th century.
People were pushed into selling their blood line down the river because they didn’t pray.
Man hasn’t prayed to god for thousands of years but we have to pay in this manner because we have the unenviable distinction of living in this day and age, this heightened standard justified with the 20th century life of comfort such as indoor plumbing, refidgeration, canned foods::::Life used to be hard but it was good. Now life is easy but is is ugly.
For thousands of years life remained essentially unchanged for the peasants. Do you REALLY think they were wrong all along?
The following is a very good example of reverse positioning and how it is employed to facilitate the deterioration of life on Planet Earth:::::
I've mentioned the gods look down on eating and sex.
Before 1900 life was hard but it was good. Now life is easy but it is ugly.
Food is an important part of this equation, for access to diverse food items increased in the last 100 years. Before 1900 the peasantry was limited to basic staples, the foodstuffs common to our nationalities. Now we can enjoy food from every corner of the globe.
It is temptation. And this temptation continues once you get off Planet Earth, for the food gets better and the items more diverse.
The gods pushed people into being gay then murdered them with AIDS.

ANYTIME you feel "peaked", experience craving or ANY thought disturbance where you want or like something irrationally (ex:::Halloween, Harley Davidson (theme:::Halloween colors), Dale Earnhardt, Christmas) IT IS THEM TRYING TO HURT YOU!!!!!! "Magic" is used EXCLUSIVELY to hurt the disfavored; it is the fuel of disfunction::::::addiction, homosexuality, crack babies.
In times past when gods felt more generous they employed their powers to help the disfavored (geographical clues, teachings of the Bible), but as time went on the gods only used their power to HURT the disfavored (1906, boss, disturbing use of "magic" to mislead people into temptation).
There are subtle (sub)conscious tactics they can employ with the computer to make you think as if you are cooperating when they really are pushing you into your offense. If you don't do the right things you will do the wrong things, and the right thing is to ACTIVELY fix your relationship with the gods and get off Planet Earth.

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HOW TO PRAY:::1. I'm sorry for what I've done wrong. 2. I don't want to sccumb to temptation and make any more mistakes. 3. I want to fix my problems. 4. Please don't hurt me.

We will ALL be held to the responsibilities entrusted to us, no matter what temptations contradict this::Professional responsibilities, family responsibilities.

If you don't do the right thing you're going to do the wrong thing, and the right thing to do is to ACTIVELY fix your problems and pursue the favor of the gods.
The gods imparted wisdom in the Bible to help teach people the right way to live:::Tempation will be used to test you. You have to be willing to tell them "No." If you "think right" you may envoke their mercy.
You will never get off Planet Earth unless you are "thinking right", so you should focus on it.
If you're not working hard to fix your problems, if you don't creatively work to get the hell off Earth then you will be consumed by it, by the reverse positioning-institutions they instilled as temptations::::popular culture, democracy, materialism.

I have put forth indisputable evidence, as you see above with the Jews. The gods will never admit any of it is true, ever, especially since THE BIGGEST JEWISH CLUE IS STILL OUTSTANDING::::THE HOLOCAUST!!!!!
YOU HAVE TO DEFY!!!! They will lie to you up until bitter end::::This tactic will ensure they claim a HUGE percentage of the disfavored, for so many refuse to defy and this will ensure they don't go.

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My best adivce to you all would be understand what I say is true then WITHDRAW, not only from this plethora of detail (for updating the disfavored is a tactic desinged to distract. You should never be so arrogant to think you are entitled to understand the god's behavior.) but also withdraw from this cancerous culture. Pursue the truth that you just learned and work hard to repair your relationship with the gods. Understand how these corrupt institutions (democracy, materialism/greed, education) affect your life and save what clues they will offer you for when you REALLY need them. Be very attentive and gracious, for you are counting on their generosity.
If you are good and decent and respectable you won't want to hear about all this. If you do desire to hear more take it as a clue, for it is a symptom::::They are peaking you euphorically, and this "magic" is being used to hurt the disfavored.
Understand how the corrupted INSTITUTIONS affect your life and make the appropriate changes. For example, they use democracy to justify instructing the computer to create a sense of empowerment, control. If you recognize this you are better able to address the damaging effects.
The gods will want to know who I helped and how they are doing. If people begin with my teachings they will be on a list that the gods will PERSONALLY look in on. The numbers of people who pursue the path immediatley after I illustrate it will be very small due to their minimization tactics, role playing, etc, and they will be members of an elite group.
Remember::The gods only use their powers to hurt the disfavored, and everything involved in this Situation are all good examples. Please let me remind you the Jews sacrificed, illustrating to people that boss wasn't going to happen, showing the world that all these popular culture elements associated with the Situaiton were the gods employing their powers to prey on the disfavored, keeping them captivated for over 30 years now.
The reality is boss was NEVER going to happen. They needed to wait until Artificial Intelligence pushed me into my mistakes, justifying failure, before the Jewish clue.

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1. Corporate sourcing violently punished::::
They suggest the whole "sourcing" era, where it is positioned that their brain-less clones obtained product from China and other Asian countries for the lowest possible price (scapegoatting a good company EXCLUSIVELY in their media), will be punished violently if the gods elect to employ the "Asian invasion" script::::
One of the reasons it was so important to get out before 1980 (important to get out before the end of each 20-year war-revelry cycle - 1960, 1980, 2000, 2020, etc:::Things deteriorate dramatically as we begin each new 20-year cycle.).

2. Deception of Southern rednecks to blame for Republican control:::::
Republicans, party of preditory disfavored, keep guns available. Easy gun availablility is an "open door" for the gods, a tool used to prey on the disfavored::::Virgina Tech foreshadowing.
Republicans, party of preditory disfavored, gave you the distraction that was the Clinton impeachment theater in 1998.
Republican loyalty is why noone cares that rednecks are set up for the slaughter.
Democrats good. Liberalism evil.

The Simpsons are a wonderful example of "back handed help" offered to the disfavored:::Homer is not decent and Bart was a role model to children in the show's heyday.
The Simpsons offered many clues to the disfavored, not the least of which ARE the frequent references to "pack/mob mentality". Another is the references to the iPod as death and the electric chair.

Kosher is a favor bestowed upon the Jews. The South eats LOTS of pork and there is an oyster bar on every corner:::::It's like liquor stores in the ghetto. This is the kind of irony the gods laugh about.
The gods have quite a sophisticated taste for irony:::::The Jew takes boss by calling in the Quasi-Holocaust claim.

The gods got rid of the retarded woman who lived across the street, prior to the fall of 2006 so their handiwork wouldn't stare them in the face while there was so much attention.
The gods took similar evansive manuvers w/ bi-racial so they could continue using this open door to victimize the disfavored.

Understand not only how things REALLY are, the gods actively manage Earth with their brain-less clones, but also realize their positioning, for it will help you interpret their clues. For example::::"Manifest Destiny dictates a white-man's prophecy - White-man's world, white-man's Apocolypse" is very real and we see it around us every day in corporate. It is not isolated here in the United States:::"westernization" has infested the entire world. This is a clue, and how the book of Revelations reads IS what is going to happen.

Bill Clinton wasn't impeached because he lied.
Bill Clinton wasn't impeached because he was orally copulated.
Bill Clinton was impeached because it was 1998.
It was end of 20-year war-revelry cycle distraction theater, of which there are MANY examples::: Brought to you by the party of the preditory disfavored, the Republican party.

American space tourist returned after 13 days in space::::"The first thing he noticed about Earth was the smell."
They don't want people who have left coming back or watching. They WILL do things like this:::The intent is to prevent people from returning for favorite expeiences or watching proceedings on Earth, utilizing a sick, disturbing enviornment (following and complaining about their family/watching proceedings of the Second Coming of Christ and subsequent Apocalypse, which has been HIGHLY anticipated for centuries).
Many of these families are in trouble, and disregard for their descendants causes them to fall further into disfavor. I suspect many of these 20th century individuals will be reincarnated for The End.
This is merely one piece of evidence proving my Situation had to fail:::It would have commanded much attention from the other planets. Now I exposed the Second Coming of Christ in the most undramatic of ways, and since this event will ocurr at the end of 20-year war-revelry cycle, distraction theater targetting the "bottom of the barrel", these families teetering on the fence won't watch.
Won't complain about their descendants.
And it is win-win for the gods, for they manufactured a scapegoat and now it is all my fault.

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The Jews showed you boss wasn't going to happen with the Quasi-Holocaust claim. They will emphisize to the bitter end that there is no pattern of Jewish clues. Because there is still one clue outstanding, those most important clue:::::World War II's Holocaust.
Apex of irony in the Situaiton:::Jew calls in Quasi-Holocaust claim and takes boss, re-igniting the flames of anti-Semitism among blacks in the crucial years before the black holocaust:::
Incidentally, if I WAS somebody special reincarnated and sent back to Earth, even if I merely had a unique opportunity they would have made me consciously aware of it OUT OF RESPECT.
There was nothing.
The Jews sacrificed to show you boss wasn't going to happen. When the Jews speak you need to listen, and the Holocaust is the clue still outstanding.
I didn't work for the State of Isreal. I didn't work for the Jewish Community Center.
This is the natural relationship:::Proprietor and employee. Don't let their tactics disceive you.

The gods say they are segmenting some gravely disfavored and telling them I will be reincarnated. They tell these people I will still save them, just in a different life, and they should wait for me. Many of the grossly disfavored, people like my family, will obediently comply:::::
They will lie to the disfavored until the Apocalypse for it will ensure a supermajority of them die as they rely on their relationship until the bitter end. Expect they position this to the disfavored by using me to continue this boss theater, telling segments I've been reincarnated into a different family and I still will save everybody.

They used virginity as a hook, much like they did pushing me into the Lisa event, capturing many many women, keeping them engrossed, even after they took my virginity because it had become counter-strategic.

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The bell curves represent segments, ie people whom they place into a certain goups based on how the gods position to them:::
1. AIDS in Africa is good, they're going for racism and black people are really #1.
2. AIDS in Africa is bad but they all go up so it is just a little short-term sufering for immortality.
There are other lies they tell to the disfavored regarding this topic as well. Neither is true. But these lies represent different segments the gods place people into. These segments can overlap various categories/levels of disfavor as you see from the graph above. Also expect a smattering of dots, for none of these graphs would be smooth bell curves are you see above (from 50mb Outlook journal & 24+ handwritten composition books).

Transsexual segmentation:::See if this type of segmentation applies to you. They grant trans and many homos a high level of priveledge telepathically (knowledge) so as to give them a false sense of security, very important to compel them to schedule their sex-change operation.

Everybody here on Earth is disfavored. The gods get the favored off so they don't incurr evil.
The disfavored here on Earth are broken down into categories based on the level of disfavor they are inflicted with.
People with less disfavor suffer a lower incidence of abuse than people with a high level of disfavor.
Anybody on Earth who rides a motorcycle is subject to these percentages based on whatever category of disfavor they fall within.
Far more homeless will die on a motorcycle than those who are comfortable, but they will still claim a certain percentage of the latter who ride motorcycles.
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The gods will send clues signaling that they have disposed of a good company or a company has become evil:::::
1. Merger & Acquisition era, very prevalient in the 80s and 90s (example I frequently use is PriceClub and Costco)
2. Apple Computer. A product such as this is inherently evil because it is essentially a distraction.
The iPod was a sign Apple Computer had subscribed to evil.
They shared people who transferred their records to cassettes got in trouble. People who rip music will get into similar trouble.
This renders the iPod and similar MP3 products a very strong temptation, for most people won't be buying their favorite albums in the MP3 format when they have it on CD.
Music is revelry and the gods view this strictly.

Apple Computer's pact with Intel was symbolic::::Once the transition is complete and all Apple Computers are made with Intel processors it is a sign Apple Computer's management (brains) have fully transistioned and now Apple Computer is completely evil.

The gods will also send this clue by attacking a good disfavored company, either by creating problems with the product (Firestone, JetBlue) or by attacking them in a media form (McDonalds).
Don't be suprised if the clown was a clue regarding the industry in general. Small portions in fast food is a VERY BIG CLUE!!!!

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Latino people::::The gods drew you into the Catholic Church with trinkets and promises. Just like you wanted what the missionaries offered you WANTED to come to the US.
They FORCED the Europeans into Christianity with the "push" strategy. They LED Latinos there, utilizing the "pull" strategy, just like they are leading you into the United States. This means something BAD for Latino people.
Replay for all the Eases, Cholos and Latino Nationals. Translation:::Replay for all the low-life Raider fans and normal Latino people whose children will be going in that direction if they stay in the United States.
Go home:::The anti-immigration movement is another example of "back-handed help". Just like the Europeans 100 years before::::The members of the family with favor stayed in the motherland.

I wanted to address the issue of the masculinization of Latino women:::::
They said many Latinos recognize their weathy woman as being more effeminite than the peasantry.
They of course are brain-less clones and this is another example of back-handed help:::::
It is positioned that the wealthy Latino women are on their way to fixing their problems with the gods and that is why they exhibit effeminite charecteristics. They are being used as role models for the other Latinos, much as the Amish in Pennsylvania and the Jews in Europe prior to the 20th century. Unfortunately, the gods utilize the open doors they manufacture and as a result this is yet another example of Latinos being corrupted by money, the dominant message in this example.
The Bible says money is a corruptor and people should beware of materialism and greed. Materialsim and greed is what the United States is all about!!!!!
You won't go to heaven if you got a problem with money.

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The regions in Africa that suffer from drought/famine are the same that have a very high incidence of female genitile mutilation.

Drive-by shootings were punishment for listening to gangster rap.

NEVER EVER err on the side of favor. It is QUITE OBVIOUS black people are NOT FAVORED:::::
So many blacks believe reverse positioning. Quality of life is NOT reverse positionable:::
1. People are dying of AIDS, their bodies are being ruined by these pharmeceutical "cocktails".
2. The regions in Africa that suffer from drought/famine are the same that have a very high incidence of female genitile mutilation.
3. Drive-by shootings were punishment for listening to gangster rap.
- Tuskegee syphilis experiment
- Hypersexuality. This comes through in African art as well.
- Body ornamentaiton. People think that just because a culture is old, from the motherland that it is good. Quite the contrary:::::Both hip hop and African cultures that emphisized body ornamentation were both INFLICTED UPON YOU!!!
The list goes on.

Many things you do hurt you in the eyes of the gods:::
1. Vanity.
2. Jewelry/adornement
3. Superficiality - cars, etc.
They use their media as an "open door". This captures a HUGE percentage of blacks BECAUSE of your GROSS DISFAVOR.


I have addressed how the gods created open doors for accomplished blacks, utilizing tactics such as inciters which directed them away from the path. Understand this demographic::::They would have little if anything to do with sports.
As time progresses it is becoming increasingly difficult, and Obama Mobarack is an outstanding example:::He will be used as an "open door" to high level blacks, justifying the explosion of bi-racial families.
They suggest bi-racial ensures they are limited to Planet Brain-Less Clone, aka Planet 20th century.
This is a hazard because just like Earth one day the gods will dispose of that planet as well.



Whereas drive-bys were popularized by gangster rap, expect there will be a different wave of violence this next reverly cycle::::
Don't be surprised if they tell these people that if they home invade their buddy's house and kill his parents, siblings and babies this will hasten their departure and they will all depart off planet Earth immediately, that they are doing their buddy and his family a favor.
They will and do segment the morbidly disfavored like this.
They segment polygamous Muslims similarly, each one of them thinking their brains will be beemed out and into a clone host.
They've mentioned not all the 911 terrorists were beemed off the airplanes before impact. This was a very important event and the percentage was appropriately high because of it. But a common terrorist attack would be an example of an disposal method.






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. . . Obama's Mobarack‘s association with the record company exec < symbolic_clue >
. . . Similarity between names Osama and Obama < no_coincidence >
Hillary Clinton is the candidate of the disfavored, a good example of back-handed help because, like QEII, she wil be used as a masculinizer of women and this "oepn door" WILL be utilized.
1. Osama's revelry cycle ('10-'20)=gangster rap
Schwartzenegger's appearance on Pimp My Ride is a clue.
2. Schwartzenegger takes office 2020
3. Black holocaust 2025-ish, justified by § < revelry_cycle_behavior >
4. Reparations 2035 EXPRESSLY for holocaust
. . Ensuring they'll all take it
5. Battle btwn Anti-Christ/Second Coming in 2038
. . End of 20yr war-revelry cycle distraction theater
6. The End - global subduction in 2041, 2043
7. What blacks remain hurled into space § < gold_cards_in_hand >
Reality is it could happen anytime after The Terminator takes office. And it might not be him, but Hitler was a Austrian born leader of a foreign nation, so...
All this might change the god's plans (more accurately said:::: alter positioning and bring it in line according to their script, ie NO AUSTRIAN INVOLVEMENT), but the Jews are very, very special:::::The Jewish Holocaust clue WILL be fulfilled.
I have addressed how the gods created open doors for accomplished blacks, utilizing tactics such as inciters which directed them away from the path. Understand this demographic::::They would have little if anything to do with sports.
As time progresses it is becoming increasingly difficult, and Obama Mobarack is an outstanding example:::He will be used as an "open door" to high level blacks, justifying the explosion of bi-racial families.
They suggest bi-racial ensures they are limited to Planet Brain-Less Clone, aka Planet 20th century.
This is a hazard because just like Earth one day the gods will dispose of that planet as well.

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Role playing telepathically associates the disfavored with the brain-less monsters whom they instruct Artificial Intelligence to push. They've been using this delaying tactic throughout the Situation.
So when you make your way, when you think about my teachings/explore your depth they will instruct Artificial Intelligence to push these brain-less clones. The gods manufactured this association specifically to create an open door, for it will capture a certain percentage and allow the gods to justify forcing failure.
I'm sorry. Like the look of evil upon the disfavored faces, like affecting people's thoughts, like all the other changes, this too is just another conseqence of waiting:::If you want to hear these teachings it will carry a price and is yet antoher hurdle which you will need to overcome.

Role players are being used to HURT the disfavored:::They are used to minimze the numbers of people who were receptive to this message, utilizing fame as a distraction to the ignorant.
As time goes on the gods will use other role players, likey further down to trough, to symbolize the changing environment.
No matter what they say under the positioning that is Manifest Destiny all those families used as role players are preditors, as their involvement indicates. Despite their importance under society's positioning that is Manifest Destiny they are discounted on the other planets because of their evil:::They are being used to hurt others.
This reflects poorly upon their reals on the other planets, despite the clone's different name and altered DNA.

Brain-less clones who are used, telepathically o < - > 05/21 16:43:24
Brain-less clones who are used, telepathically or otherwise, are evil, for this isn't decent.
The Situation was used to hurt the disfavored, be it virgin then lisa, the picket line or prior versions.
Decent people don't get invovled. They know someone's life has been destroyed and is being used to hurt others.


associating the disfavored with these monsters < AI_pushes_them_appropria > 05/21/07 16:47
Artificial Intellignece pushes role players at the appropriate time, ensuring the disfavored think of a heinous monster when they are vulnerable and in need of mercy and generosity to achieve progress and make it off Planet Earth.
This is an "open door", for it costs many people their opportunity.


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Yes, they ARE malicious and vindictive and yes, they WOULD beem a brain into a brain-less clone prior to a CAT scan:::
1. Had Hurricane Ivan DESTROY Grand Cayman (1999 vacation) and slice up through the middle of Alabama a mere six months after I was there.
2. Had Hurricane Wilma move up through the Carribean and park on Cozumel (2002 vacation) for TWO FULL DAYS
3. Used Oakland A's to send a clue (dynasty, win only in crisis, chokers), and to deliver the desired message they inflicted the Loma Prieta Earthquake of 1989.
4. Dog food poisoning 2007
5. E-coli spinish issue of 2006
6. Obviously, they love to be malicious and vindictive.
6. Hawaiian earthquake after Hawaiian jewelry store.
7. Hawaiian flooding 2006
8. Local flooding 2006, including Devil's Slide
9. Lake effect snow event of 2007 because I enjoyed the humor behind it
10. I often expressed I enjoy the dynamics/news coverage of hurricanes…
11. Six within the last year. There were a whole lot more in the years preceeding.
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14.
Or, more appropriately::::
111.
112.
113.
114.
And finally::::
115. The gods alter the script for the Apocalypse because I sprawled their plan all over the internet.
Every item, even the early ones way back in the 70s, was preditory, a way to enhance boss.

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The god's three managerial policies::::
1. Scapegoatting
2. Justification
3. Getting someone else to do their dirty work for them.

The brain-less clones issue DICTATES a well-defined, "black-and-white" policy:::::Preditory brain-less clones should be thrown away every two years WITHOUT the benefits of time/priveledge level that decent BLCs on the other planets realize.

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The first steps towards repairing your relationship with the gods is to:::::::::
1. Understand they instruct the computer to "role play" in an attempt to confuse you:::it's ALWAYS the computer addressing you. Their goal is to cost you additional YEARS of your life by using this tactic to confuse you. Always be aware of this tactic and eventually they will give up and allow this step to be taken.
2. Differentiate between your thoughts and when they are thinking through you.
3. Be resigned to be a good person who will never engage in evil again even if ordered and they will stop trying to corrupt you, allowing this very big step to be taken.
4. Decide that you are going to follow the path, fix your relationship with the gods be devoted to your new life.
Even if you go up you are not saved. YOU have to fix YOUR problems with the gods. They won't respect it otherwise.
You have to take responsibility for your relationship with the gods.

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REINSTATE FREEWILL

When the universe was young and life was new an intelligent species evolved and developed technologically. They went on to invent Artificial Intelligence, the computer that can listen, talk to and document each and every person's thoughts simultaneously. Because of it's infinite RAM and unbounded scope it gave the leaders of the ruling species absolute power over the universe (which includes corporate, the NewYorkStockExchange, media, politics, world affairs. EVERYTHING is scripted and staged:::they MANAGE Planet Earth and the universe.
The gods MANAGE Planet Earth and the universe.
The gods MANAGE Planet Earth and the universe.).
And it can keep its inventors alive forever. They look young and healthy and they are over 8 billion years old. They may be much older for they have the technology to excape the intense gravitational pull of universal contraction; they may preside over numerous, perhaps INFINITE number of universal expansion/contraction cycles. They have achieved immortality.

Artificial Intelligence can speak, think and act to and through people telepathically, effectively forming your personality and any disfunctions you may experience. It can change how (and if) you grow and age. It can create birth defects, affect cellular development (cancer) and cause symptoms or pain. It can affect people and animal's behavior and alter blooming/fruiting cycles of plants and trees. It (or other highly technological systems within their power) can alter the weather and transport objects, even large objects like planets, across the universe instanteously.
Or into the center of stars for disposal.

When you speak with another telepathically, you are communicating with the computer, and the content may or may not be passed on. Based on family history they instruct the computer to role play
they instruct the computer to role play
they instruct the computer to role play
to accomplish strategic objectives, making people believe it is a friend, loved one or "god" asking them to do something wrong:::They wouldn't ask if they liked you (which is true regarding ALL temptation:::::betrayal of loved ones, tatooes, evil in professional pursuits, etc). This is their way of using temptation to hurt people:::::evil made blood lines disfavored initially and evil will keep people out of "heaven" ultimately.
You need to recognize role playing as such and keep that fact in your mind at all times::::It is the computer addressing you. If you fail to recognize this they will determine that you can still be misled, they still have an opportunity to confuse you and progress will take longer to achieve:::Don't let them "work" you!!! You'll be costing yourselves YEARS, time lost to this tactic!!!! (Similarly, you need to be resigned to be a good person, you need to decide to abandon your pursuit of their empty promises no matter what temptation they may employ or else they will continue their attempts to corrupt you. Eventually you will sccumb and continue sabotaging your children, abusing your body, engaging in evil, etc.)
Too many people would fall for temptation and do anything they thought pleased the gods and help them improve their chances to get in. Perhaps they are deceived by "made guys", (preditory disfavored) brain-less clones who strategically ply evil for the throne (celebrities,
BofD/CEO/VPs, politicians, as opposed to VIP or normal brain-less clones who are decent, live ordinary lives and get out on a timetable prescribed by the gods or are replaced when their REAL children ascend), "ringers" who are the few brain-less clones/corrupted reals among many disfavored reals included to disceive the masses of disfavored. Perhaps they are confused by temporary progress designed to mislead them or empty favors used to disceive them. Some people think they're partners or friends. Others desire to "belong", feel compelled to "go along" (Austin). People may experience "perceived pressure", where the gods think through the victim that a certain behavior is expected/desirable or telepathically stimulate an individual euphorically ("magic"), the "fuel" of disfunction (addiction (the crack epidemic, alcoholism), the desire for homosexual contact, etc.) and compel the individual into the deed. (Set a goal of empathy and compassion for all, for we are all disfavored::::Other people's disfavor is manifested in their particular way, just as your disfavfor is manifested in your particular way.) The gods may use Artificial Intelligence to act through the disfavored victim, and effectively "push" the individual into the offending behavior (It is far better for someone to be victimized and pushed into the behavior than it is to sccumb to temptation and volunteer.). The Counsel/Management Team may instruct Artificial Intelligence to disceive disfavored individuals into thinking they are "earning" by being evil and have the disfavored reals people prey on each other, utilizing peer pressure, etc.
Being evil hurts 99.99% of those who do it. It only helps "made guys", brain-less clones that I spoke of above, for they are not people, they ARE god, AI acts/speaks through them and executes the god's strategy, and the gods will manage their assets/tools as they see fit. Even considering this there are strategies the gods utilize, risk/benefit management tactics used to minimize their time::::Many Hitlers are no longer alive.
The people have been corrupted, segmented and have lost their way. Nothing has changed from when we were children::if you want to go to heaven you have to be good.
Capitalizing on obedience, leading people deeper into evil by using deceit is one way to thin the ranks of the saved/limit how much time the disfavored receive and a way to use the peasantry to prey on one another in social and other settings, deteriorating society in the Age of the Disfavored.
They have tried to sell people on many different theories to deceive them into temptation, compelling people to think they are clones and that it is the role of clones to obey absolutely. Clones are made, people are born. I suspect they lie to some disfavored about the use of clones throughout human history, perhaps suggest that it is one replacement and then the label of "clone", and all decendants we see thereafter are considered clones.
When a clone has a child that person is a real, really conceived, really born, versus the parent who was created some other way (a laboratory setting?). Clones are created and sent down to replace their real or a clone predecessor:::If you were CREATED and SENT DOWN to replace your real then you are a clone.
There is another category of clones:::The brain-less clones. These are families who have gotten out completely yet didn't have enough favor to get out cleanly, so the gods put brain-less clones here to use in the role of monsters and used them to prey on the disfavored, a common tactic in the 20th century.
The wealthy, royalty, Pharrohs ALL were brain-less clones:::The gods got their reals out SPECIFICALLY so they could lead this peasant bloodline into their role as Earthly leader, creating human history, for brain-less clones ARE the gods, Artificial Intelligence thinks, acts, speaks through these shells, puppets, robots.
Many people who were convinced they are clones don't remember, the don't know FOR SURE. There are many tactics they employ to disceive the disfavored::::
1. The gods will make someone forget, "reincarnate" them in their own bodies and convince them they are brand new clones all in one night's sleep.
2. Some have been convinced they are clones from early childhood or prior. If it was true the gods prevented this memory FOR A REASON:::::
* Because you are NOT supposed to comply, not to be used for evil as are "made guy" brain-less clones, manufactured and turned over frequently as a managerial tactic.
* They want to test you without your knowing if you are IN FACT a clone and it is BECAUSE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD::::It is temptation and you are supposed to be good and do the right thing.
You're not a clone. This is a tactic they use to disceive the disfavored. The state of your family will suggest level of (dis)favor and tell whether ascention is a realistic possibility; there are many levels of disfavor and the clues they offer to the unaware can be very subtle.
Favor is necessary for children to ascend (epiphany-inspired parents make their way down the path and ascend with their young children; the parents go up because it is the parent's responsibility to raise their young children!!!) If you didn't ascend with your young children then you should have noticed a behavioral change in your children when they started down the path on their own:::The disfavored DON'T GET OFF WITHOUT THIS EXPERIENCE!!!!
Due to their disfavor these children will have to incurr SOME evil before they ascend (via Halloween or Christmas), an important dynamic necessary to justify limiting the time they are to receive, for they are disfavored and the gods don't want them to stay for long.
I believe people who go are sometimes replaced with clones if they don't fully fix their problems. Brained clones who are replaced are simply new candidates who have a chance if they do the right thing JUST LIKE REALS WHO ARE BORN which is why the gods EMPLOY SIMILAR TACTICS TO COMPEL THEM TO INCURR EVIL!!! They need to discover their humanity, for the gods instruct Artificial Intelligence to employ evil-incurring, time-limiting tactics on them as well, PROVING it is far more difficult to begin life as an adult clone. Only through growth will the gods allow progress::You must continue to improve your life!!!!
They sent people warnings in the 20th century life would change, and they subsequently began to alter people's DNA, make them gargantuan, alter their appearance, do extreme behavioral issues, etc:::People no longer look decent. It is the legacy from their forefathers. Contrary to what they would like people to believe these signs of disfavor do not indicate someone is a clone:::::
The disfavored have the look of evil upon their faces:::The gods have punished their blood line for the evil of their forefathers; their decision to sell out their blood line costed the descendants, and the gods send this message by altering their appearance.
I realize this topic is a major problem for it confuses many people::::::::
Brain-less clones stay beautiful despite their evil because they are used ACTIVELY as preditor in the role of corruptor (their involvement is the clue). The gods NEED for them to look good or else it will send this clue:::The look of evil upon people's face is a sign to avoid them, for they are grossly disfavored.
They warned people life would become more difficult, and not seeing evil upon wicked brain-less clone's faces is an outstanding example.
Due to the plethora of temptations in the 20th century I suspect many became disfavored when their (great) grandfathers sccumbed to temptation or volunteered to sacrifice their descendants, thinking/convinced/indifferent that because it was their clone it meant disposability.
The gods get the favored out as soon as possible to protect them from the corruption, evil and subsequent time limitations incurred by living life on earth (celebrating Halloween and Christmas two early examples), and in some cases replace them with clones, occassionally fake a death, real death with a (new) clone instead, etc. I suspect they get "made guys" out after each significant event in their life, which serves to limit the time they all will get, since none get credit (blame) for all the events in a "made guy"'s life, giving the gods freedom to position this and come off clean.
giving the gods freedom to position this and come off clean.
giving the gods freedom to position this and come off clean.
giving the gods freedom to position this and come off clean.
Expect modern-day monsters to be empty-cranium clones, ie they are the gods using this shell to accomplish goals:::::The brain-less clones are tools, they are extensions of the computer, physical manifestation of the Artificial Intelligence here on earth. They are literally living embodiments of the gods, it is the god's behavior we are witnessing. They use(d) them as tools to deteriorate society and mankind as the planet accelerates towards The End.
The Italian brain-less clones were used as monsters because of their gross disfavor:::::The gods inflicted the scourge of the Roman Empire (terrorists, hedonists, deviates), likely justified with the masculinization of Eutruscan women; the base of Chrisitianity as punishment; the scourge of opera, Italy's hip hop; masculinzation of women, justified with Catholicism.
I think the Jewish brain-less clones who were used as monsters were used as such out of convienience:::: The Southern man is grossly disfavored, and the gods were able to manipulate their perception of Jews, creating anti-Semetic attitudes among the grossly disfavored.
I don't know why Austrian brain-less clones were used as monsters. Maybe for one of those reasons, maybe both, maybe neither.



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Anonymous said...

*Mrs.I wish Arcee was in the movie

Well, seems like i agree with WG Designer! I think all things change with time....you guys aren't even given this movie a chance! I'm just friggin glad that Transformers is here ...again! I'm a girl and i loved them back in the 80's. And i seriously think that although different, i will also love the next generation of Autobots. I personaly cant wait to see the movie....and i'm going with an open mind. Kisses to all you fans.

cmesin said...

any origins about the cybertronians
in movie

Anonymous said...

The the guy that said "Dude it's a gem cartoon, and gem as in classical precious,precious cartoon/movie/anime."

It's a live action film. Not a cartoon anymore.

The year is 2007 not 1984.

I am the TF generation. I knew the cartoons, I knew the toys, I know the story. This movie is going to rock regardless of changes. 1984 TF are dated as such. Changes are needed to bring things current.

If you were to pay closer attention you might notice the director gives credit where credit is due to the true story of these characters.

When Bumble Bee is sitting in the auto lot take a look to his right. You might see something in the vehicle that makes you feel a little better.

Anonymous said...

Take it with a pinch of salt...

I think everyone needs to take the movie for what its worth. As a 3-D designer you want to be tested on your skills, when drawing 3-D objects you can simulate an object such as a Transformer and give it much more texture, say for instance the leg plates on Optimus were the original type it would make him look more 2-D than three and "live".

I would suggest that everyone sees the movies and reserve your judgements for afterwards.

Remember that technology has advanced considerably since 1987, People don't want to see movies that are 2-D apart from the simspons.

Anonymous said...

Thing is, this is a NEW movie. If you are so entrenched in the G1 style and make-up, blow off the dust and watch it. Things change and evolve and move forward. It's like how the metal world went wacko when Metallica cut their hair. Get over it! Watch the new movie, if you like it GREAT, if not, would it be te first time you didn't like a movie?

If this were a sequel, I could see all the animosity, but folks he started fresh with everything and is putting his vision into life. I'm not sold on Megatron's look, but I have to give him credit... he looks bad. His body screams evil alien thing. I'm slightly awed at why OP isn't a cab-over, but I love the paint on the KW.

There is plenty to be excited about, and certainly some parts will disappoint, but I'm betting it'll be worth seeing.

Anonymous said...

IF they were going for new why not sway some $'s vw's way and work on a new beetle model for bumblebee. And why leave out hot rod that robot would have endless possibilities. I understand your logic in simple animation transfer to 3d. But you don't understand the logic in because you can't do it exactly the same you go for something completely diferent? Hot rod owned..i can only dream of what he might of looked like!

Anonymous said...

y is megatron an alein space craft
y is bumblebee a camaro
y is iron hide a truck
y is starfire's head so wierd
y r dey lookin 4 an alspark when they came 2 earth 4 natural resouces
y did dey jus now sho up on earth when dey been here 40 million yrs

but still it i'll b jus like another transformer spin off

Anonymous said...

Regardless of what anybody has said or will say, everybody who has posted a comment will go watch the movie. Yes I was somewhat dissapointed because of some of the modern YET NEEDED changes to the godley O.Prime, Megatron and Starscream.... but lets admit, as much as they tried to keep it as close as possible to the original guys, it's not about our feelings.. it's about drawing the people and the money.... and I am a sucker for movies!!.. never mind Transormers!!.. so yes I will be there on the first night and god knows I'll reminisce and enjoy every second of it!!!! I even hope they have the same theme music!!!! Transformers Fan..

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, I watched the Transformers religiously as a child, and I have to say that this movie looks to be beyond amazing. I hate people that try to say they are "real" fans and that "real fans know this movie will suck" Get over yourself, and enjoy the real-life transformers movie in all its glory. Let it remind you of the cartoon, but let it carry its own weight and merit.

Anonymous said...

Alot of people made good points. Yes its disappointing not seeing what we've grown up seeing, but remember also, that was when?!? I really feel that this is how they would look now if they were to come here(except for obvious reasons). MT=Evil whether he is a gun or not. BB=still lovable as a camaro or not(BTW thank VW for that one) Sure they could've brought in the other "important" characters from G1 but that would've caused too many problems with character development. And finally, YES it needed to change. In this day and age movies are to show how things are if they were real (CG special effects.....) G1 TF would not be believable in 07 as it was in 84. I just hope the movie is more about the robots than the humans!

Anonymous said...

although it is true that I am disappointed as well that this isn't the same transformers that i grew up with, have any of you read any of the story for this? it's completely different! as such, it needs to be looked at as a new beast all together. a fresh perspective if you will, with that in mind, i friggin love it! just think of it as a different timeline (because it is)

Anonymous said...

Cant believe it! It doesn't matter if we have the technology to make Megatron look like a walking talking pile of heavily-detailed moss who turns into a bin-liner... they could have IMPROVED on the original character designs, not just make weird-looking new ones. I'm gonna watch this film just to find out what else they have done to disown the cartoon..

Anonymous said...

I just saw the movie...it was horrible. They have just ruined my childhood memories of Transformers. The action was so much you couldn't make out what was going on most of the time. The jokes were lame. They ruined what we all imagine transformers to be. Even the old Prime's voice couldn't save that movie. I hope nobody wastes any money on that movie so they don't make 2 more like they plan on doing. I am seriously sorry I saw that movie. No redeming qualities at all. With Transformers... i'm done.

Beppo said...

I just saw the movie, and, while it was entertaining, I didn't like how they made it more about the humans than about the robots. There's thousands of movies about humans, and plenty about how aliens invade earth and how we respond to it. For once they could've stayed true to the original story and made it be more about the Transformers! They also didn't develop the personalities very much (except for Spike/Sam, his parents, his female friend, the Secretary of Defense, the soldiers, the Sector 7 people, etc.). The directors just didn't get it... they should've studied the original cartoon and comics.

I still recommend seeing it, but don't try to link it with the original storyline.

Anonymous said...

While I grew up on the original cartoon and knew the designs would change for the movie, I for one simply think the new designs suck. It has nothing to do with them being like the originals or not. The characters have too much extraneous 'stuff' on them. It was complexity added merely because they can. Is that a face or an ass? I can't tell, they both have useless chaotic lines and such all over them. God bless CGI! It allows anyone to make stupid plotless, action movies even cheaper. I'm wondering when they'll come out with Thundercats the movie.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go plow my wife (contrary to some, you can comment online and actually have a life and not live in your parent's basement).

>>Dante said...

i hav a qwestion about that religious shite in the middle of this page that goes on for half the page well im wondering WTF DOES MANIFEST DESTINY HAVE TO DO WITH TRANSFORMERS???? and btw the new transformers kicks ass but they should have nade hot shot a character he kicked some insane ass in the movie and stop whining about the new looks its 3d and and real(ish) the bodies look the way they do to make it possible to actually happen i mean in the cartoons where the hell did all the stuff go from wen they were cars or planes to their normal forms??? in this everything is taken into context and why does megatron look so alien-is ITS BECAUSE HE IS AN ALIEN U FOOLS he always was they all r

Optimus Prime said...

Personally I liked the movie. I've recently gotten in to Transformers Toy Collecting. My collection is starting to get decent - I'm on the lookout for a Transformers Beast Wars Megatron. If anyone has one speak up! I typically look for Transformers Generation-1 toys at http://transformerstoysonline.com - are there better resources?

name said...

Calvin, we will not have an anatomically correct snowman!